Friday, April 01, 2005
On the Quote in Church & State Magazine
Those interested in knowing the source for the quote in Barry Lynn's Church & State Magazine editorial "Politics and Proof-Texts: Why I Disagree with Jim Dobson and Jim Wallis" will find it in my February 3, 2005 blog.
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If we are saved by faith unto good works, and faith without works is dead...can we observe through his speech and actions that Barry Lynn has a relationship with Christ? I'm not judging him, just wrestling with the following truth: A house divided cannot stand (Mark 3:25) - and I don't see how a child of God can make it his duty to so actively hinder the truth of Christ as he does. Mr. Lynn truly needs prayer as his eyes are so spiritually blind it's tragic. He needs to see the truth so he will not continue to work against it. Jesus said that He is truth, and that scripture is truth, and there is no other way to the Father except through Him (John 14:6, John 17:14-17). Those are non-negotiable, exclusive claims. Anyone who works against that is deceived. Everytime I read his writings or hear him speak, he's taking an intellectual approach to the Gospel and what's missing are the references to Jesus as Lord of his life. We are NOT saved by a knowledge of Christ (for even the demons know who Christ is - Luke 8:28), we are saved when we surrender to Jesus and let him become LORD of our lives. The Bible tells us in Romans 10:17 that "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." If he is saved, he apparently is working against the same method by which he came to Christ. I do not see how that can be.
Roger
Roger,
You deny that you are "judging him," and then proceed to do just that.
Interesting comment by annon, not one word in opposition to what Lynn said, no debate on the issue of the first ammendment, only a personal attack on his being a Christian. Dirty pool, old man. Debates are about idea, issues, leave the personal out of it, unless you lack the intellectual capacity to respond with a better idea.
There was a reason why writers of the Constitution began it using these words, "We the People of the United States" They wanted there to be no doubt about where the government and its law come from. Not from a divinely appointed King, or Pope. They have all come from duly elected legislatures, and we the people have to hold them accountable at every elelction. Notice that Bush and Delay both realized they had crossed a line that the people did not support on the federal legislation to violate Florida's judiciary, and they backed off.
Bruce,
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not judging him. I'm just concerned that I've never heard him talk about or write about his relationship with Jesus Christ. Is Jesus Lord of his life? Bruce, if you have or know of any writings or statements that Mr. Lynn has made on this topic, please forward them to me.
tig,
>Interesting comment by annon, not one word in opposition to what Lynn said, no debate on the issue of the first ammendment,
All of that pales in comparison if he is lost. I'm more concerned that he may be deceived and think he is a Christian by some sort of 'works' instead of having faith in Jesus Christ.
Roger
The issue of a person being saved or lost would hardly be answered in a third person blog, nor is it seemly for people to discuss the matter of another person's personal relationships without them participating in the discussion, I do believe that is called gossip. If you worry over the man's soul contact him directly and ask the concerned party, or pray for him. Mr. Lynn's salvation is between him and God. Your attitude would have us believe that you are capable of knowledge that only God truly knows.
Tig,
Re-read my initial post. My concerns are stated there as based on the words of Jesus. If Jesus tells us something, then it's for our benefit and should be taken seriously. If I'm misinterpreting the words of Jesus, please clarify. The reason I posted was to debate that scripture reference and how it apparently applies to Mr. Lynn by observing his actions...which anyone can do. If Bruce agrees with Mr Lynn, maybe he can shed light on the debate by stating the grounding in scripture for his viewpoint.
Roger
Roger,
When Barry stands before the judgment seat of Christ there is one thing of which I am absolutely certain. It will be totally irrelevant whether or not you approved of his life and witness.
Bruce,
I agree with your last statement. My opinion is irrelevant. That's why I'm focusing on scripture because Jesus' opinion is not irrelevant. Re-read my initial post. If I'm misinterpreting Jesus' statement in scripture, please clarify. If you agree with Mr. Lynn, surely you can shed light on how this witness works toward the cause of Christ. I will be happy to read any writings that Mr. Lynn has out concerning his personal relationship with the Lord and any work that he is involved in that will elevate the cause of Christ.
Roger
Roger,
How does God respond to shameless hubris?
Bruce,
My question was not political, and not pompous. I'm opening the floor for debate on the scripture that I referenced.
Re-read my initial post. If I'm misinterpreting Jesus' statement in scripture, please clarify.
Roger
Roger,
To which reference are you referring?
Bruce,
>I'm not judging him, just wrestling with the following truth: A house divided cannot stand (Mark 3:25) - and I don't see how a child of God can make it his duty to so actively hinder the truth of Christ as he does.
To add more concern, I can't seem to find out what Mr. Lynn believes.
Roger
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