Monday, March 21, 2005

Myopic Moderates

Fred Clarkson's blog on Sunday, March 20, 2005 about "How to Beat the Christian Right, Part I" is loaded with valuable information and advice. It is advice that I take very seriously.

I wish some other Mainstream Baptists would stop giving lip service to the Baptist legacy for supporting church/state separation and start doing something to preserve the first amendment. Unfortunately, most think the Baptist Joint Committee can do everything that needs to be done from Washington, D.C. Like Moderate Baptists during the Fundamentalist takeover of the SBC, they won't recognize the need for grass roots organizing until it is too late.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Boy Bruce, that kind of talk would really inspire me to action if I was a moderate/liberal. It amazes me how consumed you are with the success of religious conservatives. They have been accused by you and others of "mixing" church and state issues. But there you go, joining in the lament with DEMOCRATS. Whining about your lack of influence in the government and with the American people.

You talk about what "scares" you. What scares me is people like you and your favorite Christian hate groups the People for the Separation of Church and State and People for the American Way. The articles that you post criticizing home schoolers and Christian Schools are truly venomous. I get the impression (though I hope it's the wrong one)that you and your buddies would like to take out back and shoot every conservative if you could. God forbid I feel that way about you (or any other conservative Christian for that matter).

You might say: "It's those diabolical conservative evangelicals' fault there's a conservative agenda in Washington!" "It's a conspiracy to undermine our constitution!" But there is a reason your pro-abortion, anti-judeo-christian values crowd lost: they are bankrupt. They have no core. They don't even possess an inkling of respect for our constitution. They defend the right of the judiciary to legislate from the bench, but they would never defend the rights of the living- unborn or on feeding tubes. With the exception of those they think may get them them elected.

Dr. Bruce Prescott said...

Boy Anonymous,

You are certainly fluent under the cloak of anonymity. It fits the pattern of those who love the darkness of slander and libel rather than light of truth and honesty.

Bryan Peters said...

From my viewpoint, as evangelical Christians in America have discovered their political power, the separation of church and state has been sacrificed at the altar of dominionism. This is particularly true of Southern Baptists. I have recently been researching old issues of the Missouri Baptist journal, Word & Way, from the 1950s. I was rather astonished to see just how strongly Southern Baptists supported the separation of church and state when Roman Catholicism was the looming threat on the horizon. The director of the organization which would become Americans United for Separation of Church and State spoke at the national convention and all over the country in different states as well. If the articles did reality any justice, Southern Baptists in the 1950s would have rather held a dance at the convention than supported something like Faith-Based Initiatives, school vouchers, or anything other such thing (those well acquainted with Southern Baptists will get the joke). But as the SBC has become such a giant upon the landscape of American religion, Southern Baptists have conveniently let this legacy slip away into obscurity.

You're absolutely right. The Joint Committee can't fight this battle alone. Principled Baptists need to be vocal and loud when it comes to the separation of church and state. We can't afford not to be.

Keith said...

Is the Christian right the only side violating the separation of church and state? I seem to remember John Kerry and John Edwards preaching at every black church they could get into, using the pulpit as a political stump. Gore and Clinton did it too. The Democrats are just as quick to blur the lines as the GOP when they feel like it will help them win.

But, of course, they're Democrats and they don't count. We only blame Republicans here.

Anonymous said...

Bruce,

If it's inappropriate to post anonymously, why don't you remove the Anonymous button from your site or post guidelines for your site. It gives the impression posting anonymously is okay.

Anonymous #2

Dr. Bruce Prescott said...

Keith,

It is true that Democrats as well as Republicans have been guilty of breaching the wall between church and state.

The myth that AU does not challenge Democrats is false. For proof, here's a link. There are many examples like this, but right-wingers never stop spreading their myths.

Dr. Bruce Prescott said...

Anonymous #2,

That's like asking, "If it is inappropriate to sin, why does God give us the freedom to do it?"

Anonymous said...

Bruce,

Thanks for giving us free will.

In a willful act of sin,
Anonymous #2

Dr. Bruce Prescott said...

Anonymous #2,

I forgive you, but you'll have to make your own peace with God.