Wednesday, March 23, 2005

Pardon me, but your Theocracy is showing

Finally, a Republican is speaking about the theocratic takeover of the G.O.P.

Today's New York Times quotes U.S. Representative Christopher Shays of Connecticut, one of five House Republicans who voted against the Schiavo bill:

"This Republican Party of Lincoln has become a party of theocracy," Mr. Shays said. "There are going to be repercussions from this vote. There are a number of people who feel that the government is getting involved in their personal lives in a way that scares them."

When are true Republicans going to rise up and clean the theocrats out of their house?


Snoofy said...

It is always permissible for religion of influence one's thinking and one's vote. It is also permissible for Congress to be concerned with life and death issues. This is not an issue of theocracy run amuck. Rather what is lacking is clear thinking. Nothing meaningful is going on inside Schiavo's head. Tube feeding IS artificial life support. Who has the power to pull the support? The doctors, the husband, the family? Just let the laws in Florida decide.

Anonymous said...

Let the courts decide to starve her to death. Who made you or the courts God, snoofy? Food or water supplied in any form is NOT artificial. This is a serious issue that warents erring on the side of life (go ahead, Bush bash). The slippery slope into devaluing human life will continue (as it already does in nursing home, hospices, abortion clinics, ect.) if this is continually ignored in favor of what is convenient to allow someone else to "get on with his life."

Isn't there any concern that this "husband" has literally abandoned his wife for years and now has another family of his own?

Snoofy said...


If there was a slippery slope here you would have a point. I just don't see it.

People are taken off life support all the time. The means by which Schiavo is getting food was not available a hundred years ago. Tiny needles stuck in your veins is not natural and is artificial. I have had to deal with a family member on artificial life support. Through the experience I know that I personally do not want to be put on it. If God does not allow me to live by the power of my own body, then I feel it is time for me to die.

Roger said...

"If God does not allow me to live by the power of my own body, then I feel it is time for me to die."

This is a classic Christian Scientist argument. The tiny needles that provide diabetic insulin to millions of people are not natural either, but they provide nutrients that necessary to live. Would you be so cruel as to deny them that?

If you only choose to live by "the power of your own body", then never visit a doctor or check into a hospital. Some of us are alive today because of the "power" of surgical tools, medication (injected or otherwise), dialysis, or tube feeding. If left to the "power of our bodies" without modern care, a good many more of us would be dead.

Either that is an outcome you prefer, or you have very poorly chosen your words.

Snoofy said...

Change that to "If my body is not able to keep me alive without extraordinary medical assistance and my mind is functioning at the level of a cockroach, then let me die."