Sunday, July 31, 2005

Carter Blasts Guantanamo and Iraq War at BWA

A big THANK YOU and Amen! to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter for publicly speaking out against the abuse or prisoners at Guantanamo Bay at a forum before evangelical Christians.

Carter denounced both the abuse of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and the war in Iraq as unjust at the centenary anniversary meeting of the Baptist World Alliance.

America's war denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, was conspicuously absent from this meeting. They left the Baptist World Alliance a year ago because it admitted the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship into its membership. Jimmy Carter is the most prominent public figure who is member of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship. Southern Baptists also criticized BWA for voicing criticisms of American foreign policy.


P.M. Prescott said...

Why doesn't the mainstream press, who has such a liberal bias (sarcasm dripping from my voice)cover this story, or report anything President Carter says. They followed Ford, Reagan and George I pretty heavy. Somehow they have forgotten Carter, and he is the only former President doing anything worthwhile, that includes Clinton.

Jack Rich said...

Jimmy Carter is an embarrassment to Americans. If there is a situation where he can find the mote in America's eye, he will highlight it, ignoring the beams that protrude from the eyes of the balance of the world.

Gitmo is a place we keep those who would kill innocents; those who, demonstrably, deny all rights to women and "infidels." If Gitmo were truly an evil, harsh place, might it not have the opposite effect that is claimed by Carter et al? As in strongly discouraging, not encouraging, terrorists to take up arms against us?

As for the war in Iraq, we presume that Carter and those who support his viewpoint would prefer Saddam's regime. Tell that to thousands of Kurds and Shi'ia murdered; tell that to hundreds of thousands of Iranians (and Iraqis) killed because of his aggression.

The bleats of those who say, "oh no, we don't prefer Saddam, we just don't think war is the answer" ring false. Twelve years of sanctions demonstrated the futility of peaceful means.

As the Preacher tells us in Ecclesiastes (3:8), there is a time for war and a time for peace. Saddam's time had come. It's too late for his victims, but we can ensure that he'll have no more of them.

Nathan said...

John Luke,

I seem to remember past wars where Americans knew they treated prisoners better than the enemy would treat them. We took pride in our enemy's treatment, for we were Americans... we were better than that. We lived to a higher moral code.

Whether you agree with the war or not, justifying our actions against someone else's is wrong. Like how we were reprimanded as kids for wrongdoing and we tried to justify the action because our friend did it. That was no excuse. We hold ourselves to a higher standard, whether our enemy has a moral code or not... under those premises, Gitmo is a disgrace, for it goes against who we are.

Reverse the situation. What if Arabs had a few Americans captive and were mistreating them? Wouldn't we get all bent out of shape? Wouldn't that inflame us - embolden our cause? I seem to recall that President Carter has some experience with a few Iranians.

There's a time for war... is there a time for torture? Can we love our enemy as Christians and still torture them?

P.M. Prescott said...

John Luke, we can only surmise that those at Gitmo are what you say they are. Amazing that in the over four years we have been detaining people there not one has actually been formally charged with a crime, or tried and convicted. The real casualty is Due Process of Law. Without that there is only right by might, which leads to chaos. Do we really want to be like countries where everyone is walking around with assault rifles taking the law into their own hands?